Commenti a: Opened, Week X http://edocet.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/opened-week-x/ blog di edocet Sat, 20 Oct 2007 13:40:57 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 Di: antonf http://edocet.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/opened-week-x/#comment-39 antonf Sat, 20 Oct 2007 13:40:57 +0000 http://edocet.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/opened-week-x/#comment-39 Hi all! First of all, I want to thank Alessandro for this post. He made explicit a feeling shared by most of us. I don't think it's a question of "pay or not pay". In my case, I've not paid yet, but I intend to do it, becasuse I don't need credit but I'd like to receive the completion certificate. But even if I had paid, I don't think I 'd have more "rights" of feedback :-) I think David challenges himself very hard with this course. It's an absolute innovation and maybe he has now some sustainibility issues (Karen, I agree with you!). More, chances are that latest weeks topics were less exciting and our posts were less interesting? Anyway, thanks to Alessandro, it's a a good point for the course community: we are now awake and walking on, as well as our instructor! Hi all!
First of all, I want to thank Alessandro for this post. He made explicit a feeling shared by most of us.
I don’t think it’s a question of “pay or not pay”. In my case, I’ve not paid yet, but I intend to do it, becasuse I don’t need credit but I’d like to receive the completion certificate. But even if I had paid, I don’t think I ‘d have more “rights” of feedback :-)
I think David challenges himself very hard with this course. It’s an absolute innovation and maybe he has now some sustainibility issues (Karen, I agree with you!).
More, chances are that latest weeks topics were less exciting and our posts were less interesting?
Anyway, thanks to Alessandro, it’s a a good point for the course community: we are now awake and walking on, as well as our instructor!

]]> Di: Alessandro http://edocet.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/opened-week-x/#comment-40 Alessandro Sat, 20 Oct 2007 13:34:08 +0000 http://edocet.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/opened-week-x/#comment-40 No David, your comment is already shown No David, your comment is already shown

]]> Di: jessie0587 http://edocet.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/opened-week-x/#comment-41 jessie0587 Sat, 20 Oct 2007 12:40:23 +0000 http://edocet.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/opened-week-x/#comment-41 I do feel better when I see this blog, and I don't feel like I am the only one feel "alone". I am a new student in this field, get others' supports are very important to me especially from the instructor. I was straggling on if I understand the weekly reading or I understand the weekly question? Or I didn't understand them neither of them? Or there is actually no right and wrong answer to any question? Or we have to follow the instructor's thoughts? I was thinking it is because of my traditional education, I can't get used to the new teaching environment? I am even thinking if this is called open education, people are hard to keep hard working without retained motivation. People gave up giving comments to each other, is it because they are all busy? I spent a lot of time to read the articles and write down my thoughts on time everyweek, but I can hardly find few blogs are keeping weekly reading and giving thoughts. And the comments are gone! I like the way David did in the first two weeks, so if he can keep doing that, it will be great! I also would love to have some time chat with you guys all together and share the ideas. I do feel better when I see this blog, and I don’t feel like I am the only one feel “alone”. I am a new student in this field, get others’ supports are very important to me especially from the instructor. I was straggling on if I understand the weekly reading or I understand the weekly question? Or I didn’t understand them neither of them? Or there is actually no right and wrong answer to any question? Or we have to follow the instructor’s thoughts? I was thinking it is because of my traditional education, I can’t get used to the new teaching environment? I am even thinking if this is called open education, people are hard to keep hard working without retained motivation.

People gave up giving comments to each other, is it because they are all busy? I spent a lot of time to read the articles and write down my thoughts on time everyweek, but I can hardly find few blogs are keeping weekly reading and giving thoughts. And the comments are gone!

I like the way David did in the first two weeks, so if he can keep doing that, it will be great! I also would love to have some time chat with you guys all together and share the ideas.

]]> Di: David Wiley http://edocet.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/opened-week-x/#comment-43 David Wiley Sat, 20 Oct 2007 05:09:05 +0000 http://edocet.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/opened-week-x/#comment-43 There we go. Alessandro, please come see http://opencontent.org/blog/archives/383 and give me ideas on how to help the class work better, please! There we go. Alessandro, please come see http://opencontent.org/blog/archives/383 and give me ideas on how to help the class work better, please!

]]> Di: David Wiley http://edocet.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/opened-week-x/#comment-42 David Wiley Sat, 20 Oct 2007 05:08:10 +0000 http://edocet.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/opened-week-x/#comment-42 I'm logged in, but my posts aren't showing up? I’m logged in, but my posts aren’t showing up?

]]> Di: David Wiley http://edocet.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/opened-week-x/#comment-44 David Wiley Sat, 20 Oct 2007 05:05:59 +0000 http://edocet.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/opened-week-x/#comment-44 I'm here! Believe me, I'm here. Please come see my recent post over at http://opencontent.org/blog/ I’m here! Believe me, I’m here. Please come see my recent post over at http://opencontent.org/blog/

]]> Di: Alessandro http://edocet.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/opened-week-x/#comment-45 Alessandro Fri, 19 Oct 2007 21:04:51 +0000 http://edocet.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/opened-week-x/#comment-45 I think we are alle feeling the need to have a moment - in a chat, in a forum, in a social community - when and where we can build more social networking relationships. I am open to any opportunity. Maybe you could join us in the LTever community of the University of Florence. http://www.lte-unifi.net/elgg/ I think we are alle feeling the need to have a moment – in a chat, in a forum, in a social community – when and where we can build more social networking relationships.
I am open to any opportunity.
Maybe you could join us in the LTever community of the University of Florence.
http://www.lte-unifi.net/elgg/

]]> Di: Alessandro http://edocet.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/opened-week-x/#comment-49 Alessandro Fri, 19 Oct 2007 20:37:49 +0000 http://edocet.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/opened-week-x/#comment-49 Hi Stian, the blog I am using is made with wordpress but not on the openplatform, it's on my own serverspace. Thus I decided to allow free comments after the first approval of a comment by de admin, that is myself. I for sure will improve the system with the time. Hi Stian,
the blog I am using is made with wordpress but not on the openplatform, it’s on my own serverspace.
Thus I decided to allow free comments after the first approval of a comment by de admin, that is myself.
I for sure will improve the system with the time.

]]> Di: stian http://edocet.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/opened-week-x/#comment-48 stian Fri, 19 Oct 2007 20:30:14 +0000 http://edocet.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/opened-week-x/#comment-48 PS: If you want more people to comment on your writings (I know I always do), making them register and log in, with email verification, just to provide a little comment is probably turning a lot of people off. I know spam is a problem, but using a captcha, or a spam filter (Akismet works wonders for me), is probably a better solution. PS: If you want more people to comment on your writings (I know I always do), making them register and log in, with email verification, just to provide a little comment is probably turning a lot of people off. I know spam is a problem, but using a captcha, or a spam filter (Akismet works wonders for me), is probably a better solution.

]]> Di: stian http://edocet.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/opened-week-x/#comment-47 stian Fri, 19 Oct 2007 20:28:49 +0000 http://edocet.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/opened-week-x/#comment-47 ciao Alessandro, I was just meeting up with Megan Haggerty a few days ago - another course participant, and we discussed just this. I thought the first week of the course was great - the readings were fairly dry, but everyone attacked them from different perspectives, and it was very interesting reading everyone's postings. I followed links that lead me to more and more writings, and even to some extent modified my own views. I also really liked the way David Wiley summed up everyone's comments, and provided some sort of "closure" for the week. Especially with blogs, the feeling of being heard, and read, is very important - I put it out there but do anyone ever visit? I check my blog stats, but mostly there are just Google spiders... So people commenting on my writings, or linking to them from their writings, is really motivating. But being acknowledged by the teacher is important too. Megan and I discussed this, the role of a teacher - why it was felt as so important to have his input into all of this. But I guess he designed this course, and we would like to have him as our guide, through our process of learning. Or even as a peer-learner - I'd love to see his comments and reflections on this course in general, did it turn out as he expected... The first week was great, the second and third were quiet, but that was OK because I was moving back to Toronto and beginning school again. I did a massive amount of reading the weekend before deadline, to get through all the readings and be up to date. Since then we haven't heard from our teacher (I know he was busy with the conference - but a biip? A "I'm sorry I've been busy"??) Also I think our blog posts are less interesting because we don't have that much to add - reading through all this is interesting and important, but most of it tends just to be very similar looking "summaries of main points". I also wonder whether the blog format prohibits the creation of "dialogue" - of nodes forming, and people contributing to them. We read, we post, we move on. (Also, since i use Google Reader to scan through everyone's posts - I don't usually even see the comments, unless I go to each individual post). So I guess the conclusion is that as naufraghi set loose on the ocean, it's up to ourselves to save us. One problem of this course is that we haven't really been provided with the tools - we need a sort of "back-channel", a mailing list or a forum or something that is less "personal ownership" and more "group ownership", more of a conversation. To have a meta-conversation about where this course is going, and how we want to change it (subvert it?) to suit our own learning goals. Don't give up! Stian ciao Alessandro,

I was just meeting up with Megan Haggerty a few days ago – another course participant, and we discussed just this. I thought the first week of the course was great – the readings were fairly dry, but everyone attacked them from different perspectives, and it was very interesting reading everyone’s postings. I followed links that lead me to more and more writings, and even to some extent modified my own views. I also really liked the way David Wiley summed up everyone’s comments, and provided some sort of “closure” for the week. Especially with blogs, the feeling of being heard, and read, is very important – I put it out there but do anyone ever visit? I check my blog stats, but mostly there are just Google spiders…

So people commenting on my writings, or linking to them from their writings, is really motivating. But being acknowledged by the teacher is important too. Megan and I discussed this, the role of a teacher – why it was felt as so important to have his input into all of this. But I guess he designed this course, and we would like to have him as our guide, through our process of learning. Or even as a peer-learner – I’d love to see his comments and reflections on this course in general, did it turn out as he expected…

The first week was great, the second and third were quiet, but that was OK because I was moving back to Toronto and beginning school again. I did a massive amount of reading the weekend before deadline, to get through all the readings and be up to date. Since then we haven’t heard from our teacher (I know he was busy with the conference – but a biip? A “I’m sorry I’ve been busy”??) Also I think our blog posts are less interesting because we don’t have that much to add – reading through all this is interesting and important, but most of it tends just to be very similar looking “summaries of main points”. I also wonder whether the blog format prohibits the creation of “dialogue” – of nodes forming, and people contributing to them. We read, we post, we move on. (Also, since i use Google Reader to scan through everyone’s posts – I don’t usually even see the comments, unless I go to each individual post).

So I guess the conclusion is that as naufraghi set loose on the ocean, it’s up to ourselves to save us. One problem of this course is that we haven’t really been provided with the tools – we need a sort of “back-channel”, a mailing list or a forum or something that is less “personal ownership” and more “group ownership”, more of a conversation. To have a meta-conversation about where this course is going, and how we want to change it (subvert it?) to suit our own learning goals.

Don’t give up!
Stian

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